[122717] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Spamhaus...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Sat Feb 20 10:55:47 2010
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
In-Reply-To: <177ADC37-0E24-4CFE-B23C-3ECF49E0ECD5@ena.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 10:55:10 -0500
To: NANOG list <nanog@merit.edu>
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On Feb 20, 2010, at 10:01 AM, Marc Powell wrote:
> On Feb 19, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Dean Anderson wrote:
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>> So you should think that its ok for blacklists to charge money for
>> things they got for free?
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> In the case of Spamhaus, yes, I find it acceptable to pay them for the =
service they are providing me because I find it very useful, and with =
the understanding that they are non-profit, have costs related to =
providing the service and provide a free service for people with less =
volume than me. With regards to other lists, I would say that it depends =
on infrastructure costs they incur to provide that service, regardless =
of whether the content is community provided or not. The information may =
have been obtained freely but there are costs to disseminate it. Do you =
think that they should absorb all the costs of providing it as a free =
service?
I would go a lot farther and Just Say Yes.
How many of us here got something for 'free'? Do you feel guilty =
selling ISP services where the mail server is running FreeBSD or =
Postfix? Or the name server in BIND on Linux? Should we all just stop =
and go home now?
Spamhaus has gotten things for free, yes. I don't have a problem with =
them selling it, and I don't see why you should - unless you are one of =
the people providing such free services. And that doesn't even consider =
the huge value Spamhaus adds to that free stuff they got.
Do you honestly think those providing service for Spamhaus do not know =
this is happening? (Careful how you answer, as I used to be =
authoritative for spamhaus.org, I know a little bit about this.) If =
nothing else, they got the service for free! (When I ran one of the =
authorities, I could query it as often as I liked for $0. :)
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TTFN,
patrick
