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RE: History of 4.2.2.2. What's the story?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tomas L. Byrnes)
Wed Feb 17 16:49:52 2010

Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:49:15 -0800
In-Reply-To: <4106DE12-CEB8-4A53-A536-7B16736D3D8E@ianai.net>
From: "Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb@byrneit.net>
To: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>,
	"NANOG list" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

One main POP does not mean single homed.

We had multiple upstreams, entrance facilities, and peers. We just had
one facility where it all was, and our remote users were often dialing
into third party banks based on reciprocity agreements when they were
out of area.

It was 12 years ago. Consolidation has rendered a lot of the
collaboration from those days moot.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patrick W. Gilmore [mailto:patrick@ianai.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:11 PM
> To: NANOG list
> Subject: Re: History of 4.2.2.2. What's the story?
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> On Feb 17, 2010, at 3:51 PM, Tomas L. Byrnes wrote:
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> >> In summary, could someone educate me on the benefits of having
RNSes
> >> outside your network?
> >>
> > [Tomas L. Byrnes] We were a small regional ISP with only one main
POP
> at
> > the time.
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> If you are single homed, you -are- your upstream's network, er, AS.  I
> was careful to use "AS" and not "network" or "ISP" in my post - except
> the last line. :)
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> --
> TTFN,
> patrick
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