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Re: lawful intercept/IOS at BlackHat DC, bypassing and recommendations

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (andrew.wallace)
Mon Feb 8 16:11:05 2010

Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:08:24 -0800 (PST)
From: "andrew.wallace" <andrew.wallace@rocketmail.com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
In-Reply-To: <11637.1265654246@localhost>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

 On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:37 PM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:=0A> You =
apparently fail to understand that making other people's research well=0A> =
known in the community is an important role.  Would we be more secure, or=
=0A> less secure, if somebody did the research, but then nobody told the ow=
ners=0A> of all that Cisco gear about it? (Hint: "pwned router" is never a =
good=0A> day for the network provider)=0A>=0A> Or would we as a community b=
e more safe, or less safe, if <trollbait> SANS=0A> didn't do security trani=
ng courses </trollbait>?=0A>=0A>> Andrew=0A>=0A>> Security consultant=0A>=
=0A> Is that what you're calling yourself these days?=0A=0AThey cater for m=
ostly the public sector, doing a SANS course does not make you *SAFE* it ju=
st means you have an understanding of current trends and be able to take mi=
tigation. It is not a sure-shot way to be secure, you need to have years of=
 hands-on experience in security. =0A=0AYou can't walk out of SANS courses =
and be a security professional, you need to have a lot more than that. =0A=
=0AI started Cyber Security from my basement back in 1999 as an 18 year old=
, I am now 29 years old and am doing independent security consultancy work =
here in the UK for multiple global vendors.=0A=0AI have various titles and =
skills, security researcher, ethical hacker, security consultant, any of th=
em can be used as those are the qualifications i've achieved over the years=
. It's not unusual in the security community for one person to fall into mo=
re than one category or be qualified to undertake more than one role.=0A=0A=
Kind regards,=0A=0AAndrew=0A=0ASecurity Consultant=0A=0A=0A      


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