[121966] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Fiber Cut in CA?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Bellovin)
Tue Feb 2 18:46:37 2010
From: Steven Bellovin <smb@cs.columbia.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4B68B713.20401@spectraaccess.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 18:46:13 -0500
To: Bret Clark <bclark@spectraaccess.com>
Cc: nanog <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Feb 2, 2010, at 6:36 PM, Bret Clark wrote:
> Good point...so if the cut is in the middle of nowhere without easy
> access...then how the hell did it get cut? Malicious?
Some hikers were lost in the desert and tossed down some fiber, waiting =
for a backhoe to show up and save them, but it was confused by the scent =
of a much longer, juicier piece....
> Matt Simmons wrote:
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> And in an open desert, back hoes can smell fiber from miles away.
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> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Bill Stewart [1]<nonobvious@gmail.com> =
wrote:
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> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:04 AM, [2]<charles@knownelement.com> wrote:
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> That is one long protect path. Yikes.
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> There be mountains in the way, with deserts in between, and not a lot
> of people to justify diversity or railroads and highways to run it
> along.
> Not many carriers have more than one fiber route across Arizona and
> New Mexico, especially for the newer high-capacity fibers (i.e. built
> this millennium, after the financial excesses of the 90s.)
> I'm no longer current on what routes are being used by what carriers,
> but if you don't have two routes across northern Arizona ( I-10/I-40,
> with restoration routes like Barstow->LasVegas->Flagstaff->Phoenix),
> then the next alternative is Barstow->LasVegas->SaltLakeCity->Denver,
> at which point some carriers have routes down to Phoenix via Tucumcari
> or Amarillo, and the rest are going to go through Dallas, and anybody
> who doesn't have the LasVegas->SLC route is going to use
> Sacramento->SLC->Denver, possibly also including San Jose, depending
> on what routes they've got across California.
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> So, yeah, instead of the nice short 2200-mile restoration routes you
> can use if SF->Seattle fails, cable cuts in the Southwest can be
> really long...
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> Thanks; Bill
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> Note that this isn't my regular email account - It's still =
experimental so far.
> And Google probably logs and indexes everything you send it.
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> References
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> 1. mailto:nonobvious@gmail.com
> 2. mailto:charles@knownelement.com
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--Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb
