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RE: 1/8 and 27/8 allocated to APNIC

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brian Dickson)
Fri Jan 22 14:50:40 2010

From: Brian Dickson <Brian.Dickson@concertia.com>
To: Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:49:58 -0400
In-Reply-To: <4B59F7CC.2000200@foobar.org>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

I think it would certainly be useful, both diagnostically and operationally=
,
for IANA and the RIR's to *actually announce* the unused space, and run eit=
her or
both of tar-pits and honey-pots on those, for just such a reason - to gauge=
 problems
that might exist on "unused" space, *before* the space is assigned.

And, it'd be nice if there were a check-box for "I volunteer for the pain".
In the movies, where something bad can happen and they draw straws, it is a=
lmost
always drawing straws from among volunteers.

There are certainly reasons for wanting to identify and not assign space th=
at has "issues",
to certain recipients or when certain conditions exist.

E.g.: critical infrastructure /24's; initial assignments (where the recipie=
nt doesn't
gave another block into which to internally interchange addresses); less te=
chnically adept
recipients (e.g. in the developing nations, where adding "pain" would reall=
y be unusually cruel.)

Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Hilliard [mailto:nick@foobar.org]=20
Sent: January-22-10 3:09 PM
To: Brian Dickson
Cc: William Allen Simpson; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: 1/8 and 27/8 allocated to APNIC

On 22/01/2010 16:32, Brian Dickson wrote:
> So, if the tainted *portions* of problem /8's are set aside

What portion of 1/8 is untainted?  Or any other /8 that the IANA has
identified as having problems?  How do you measure it?

How do you ensure that other /8s which don't _appear_ to have problems real=
ly don't have
problems due to invisible use? =20

IANA hands out /8s.  We know that some of these are going to cause serious
problems, but life sucks and we just have to deal with what happens.



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