[121180] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: SORBS on autopilot?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Tue Jan 12 14:34:52 2010
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
In-Reply-To: <4B4CC951.80309@mtcc.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:34:18 -0500
To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Jan 12, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Michael Thomas wrote:
> On 01/12/2010 10:48 AM, Dave Martin wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:51:47AM -0500, Jed Smith wrote:
>>> On Jan 11, 2010, at 11:11 AM, Jon Lewis wrote:
>>> The vibe I got from a number of administrators I talked to about it =
was "why
>>> would a standards document assume an IPv4/IPv6 unicast address is a =
residential
>>> customer with a modem, forcing those with allocations to prove that =
they are
>>> not residentially allocated rather than the other way around?"
>>=20
>> Because a default allow policy doesn't work in today's environment.
>>=20
>> Blocking generic and residential addresses is the single most =
effective
>> thing we've ever done to reduce spam.
>=20
> Really? You mean that if you stopped doing this you'd have trillions,
> or quadrillions of spams per day instead now? I'm skeptical.
1) Is this really the place to talk about SORBS?
2) Your reply to Dave's post is not useful. It's not even useful if you =
consider it pure hyperbole for effect. There are many ways to reduce =
spam, the "single most effective" does not stop even 50%.
3) Should people really argue over what other people do with their own =
machines? You don't like SORBS, don't use it. Someone you need to talk =
to likes SORBS, make them stop, or conform. Might as well argue over a =
website using HTTPS when you don't like encryption.
--=20
TTFN,
patrick
P.S. Just to be clear, I don't like SORBS. I don't use it either. And =
I prefer the "make them stop", to the point that I would simply not =
e-mail someone if I were listed and they used SORBS. (But I'm not =
listed, so it's easy for me to say.)
