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Re: I don't need no stinking firewall!

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ryan Brooks)
Wed Jan 6 00:14:38 2010

Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 23:14:05 -0600
From: Ryan Brooks <ryan@hack.net>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1001051609340.23901@castor.opentrend.net>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On 1/5/10 3:24 PM, Robert Brockway wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, Dobbins, Roland wrote:
>
> The problem is that your premise is wrong.  Stateful firewalls 
> (hereafter just called firewalls) offer several advantages.  This list 
> is not necessarily exhaustive.
>
Great advantages list, but where's the disadvantages list?

Here's mine:

1..n) Stateful firewalls go down.  It's the very nature of what they 
do.  If you haven't had this problem, then your application is small.

Everyone needs to listen to Roland's mantra: "stateless ACLs in hardware 
than can handle Mpps".  It's more than just a hint.




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