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Re: D/DoS mitigation hardware/software needed.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dobbins, Roland)
Tue Jan 5 00:12:49 2010

From: "Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins@arbor.net>
To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 05:08:27 +0000
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On Jan 5, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Rick Ernst wrote:

>=20
> A solution preferably that integrates with NetFlow and RTBH.  An in-line =
solution obviously requires an appliance, or at least special/additional ha=
rdware.

The key is to not be inline all the time, but only inline *when needed*.  T=
his removes operational complexity, provides the ability to oversubscribe, =
and simplifies the routine troubleshooting matrix.

> I'm looking at taking the first whack at immediate mitigation at the bord=
er/edge (upstream) via uRPF and RTBH. =20

Good plan.

> Additional mitigation would be  via manual or automatic RTBH or security/=
abuse@ involvement with upstreams.

Automagic is generally bad, as it can be gamed. =20

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