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Re: D/DoS mitigation hardware/software needed.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dobbins, Roland)
Mon Jan 4 22:35:27 2010

From: "Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins@arbor.net>
To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 03:31:40 +0000
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On Jan 5, 2010, at 10:18 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:

> 5 Ditch the stateful firewall and exclusively use a netflow device

NetFlow analysis is very useful for network visibility, and detection/class=
ification/traceback.  There are both open-source and commercial NetFlow col=
lection and analysis systems available (full disclosure:  I work for a vend=
or of both NetFlow analysis and DDoS mitigation solutions); however, they d=
on't provide mitigation, which is where S/RTBH, flow-spec, and/or IDMS come=
 into play.

PCI DSS iatrogenically *requires* that a 'Web application firewall' be plac=
ed in front of Web servers which process credit card information (PCI DSS c=
ompletely ignores availability, and contains a number of recommendations wh=
ich are actually harmful from an opsec standpoint).  Running mod_security o=
r its equivalent on the front-end Web servers themselves fulfills this requ=
irement without putting a stateful DDoS chokepoint in front of the servers.

It's also a really good idea to front Web servers with a tier of caching-on=
ly transparent reverse proxies; Squid is a good choice for this, as well as=
 various commercial offerings.  WCCPv2 clustering (supported by Squid and s=
everal commercial caching/proxying solutions) allows this tier to be scaled=
 horizontally in order to meet capacity demands.

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