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Re: D/DoS mitigation hardware/software needed.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dobbins, Roland)
Mon Jan 4 22:19:58 2010

From: "Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins@arbor.net>
To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 03:14:15 +0000
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On Jan 5, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:

> We have such a configuration in progress, it works great without any of t=
he issues you're proposing.

Then you aren't testing it to destruction, heh.

;>

If it's a stateful firewall, and state-tracking is turned on, it's quite po=
ssible to craft sufficient pathological traffic which conforms to the firew=
all policies and yet which leads to state-table inspection. =20

And the stateful firewall serves no purpose in front of servers, in which *=
every incoming packet* is unsolicited.  Far more sensible to enforce policy=
 in stateless ACLs in ASIC-based router/switch hardware.

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