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Re: Article on spammers and their infrastructure

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Timmins)
Thu Dec 31 14:33:14 2009

Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:32:21 -0500
From: Paul Timmins <paul@telcodata.us>
To: Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>
In-Reply-To: <19260.60027.605340.161994@world.std.com>
Cc: Paul Vixie <vixie@isc.org>, nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Barry Shein wrote:
> The obvious change RIRs could make would be to make sure the contracts
> they allocate resources under give them the latitude to cancel those
> contracts if certain boundaries of behavior are breached.
>
> YES I REALIZE EASIER SAID THAN DONE.
>
> But just as allocation of resources is not a transfer of ownership to
> the allocatee by the same reasoning cancellation of that allocation
> for breach of contract is just a withdrawal of said license, not a
> "taking".
>   
Cool. Then you just have to figure out how to unilaterally withdraw a 
resource that doesn't have a centralized automated verification system. 
Taking you out of whois doesn't automatically take you out of people's 
BGP tables, after all.
-Paul


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