[120519] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Article on spammers and their infrastructure
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joel Jaeggli)
Wed Dec 23 09:25:59 2009
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 06:22:50 -0800
From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
To: Rich Kulawiec <rsk@gsp.org>
In-Reply-To: <20091223115722.GA9111@gsp.org>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Rich Kulawiec wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 01:58:47AM -0500, Christopher Morrow wrote:
>> no real arguement, but... 'please provide some set of workable
>> solutions'
>
> The set of workable solutions at this point looks something like
> "null routes, firewall rules, blacklist entries" -- in order to deny
> traffic to and from such locales.
>
> I agree just about entirely with Ferg: the policy angle is a dead
> end. The organizations involved are either clueless or entirely
> focused on other goals (e.g., profit) at the expense of sound policy.
>
Gosh, there's no way I can create this public good, because someone
somewhere will use it in the commission of a crime notwithstanding all
the benefits it confers.
I'll just throw down props to Paul Samuelson since he's no longer with
us and leave it at that.
> ---Rsk
>
