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Re: news from Google

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Mon Dec 21 17:24:13 2009

From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
In-Reply-To: <20091221214825.GQ29757@sizone.org>
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:18:44 -0500
To: NANOG list <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Dec 21, 2009, at 4:48 PM, Ken Chase wrote:

> CSR isnt $0 ROI. Unless they're doing it wrong.

I said essentially.  If you think they're making even 1% of $20M, one of =
us confused.  I'll admit I do not do marketing, so maybe it's me.


> Which they aren't. You're not paid by them and you're arguing FOR =
them.
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> Well played, Google.

No, I'm arguing against people who think this is evil are being silly.  =
Including you.

Sometimes donating money to charity is just donating money to charity.  =
I really don't see Google getting more business because I posted to =
NANOG.  Are you honestly arguing otherwise?

I guess we should get upset at them if they take a tax write off too?

--=20
TTFN,
patrick



> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 04:28:10PM -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore's said:
>> On Dec 21, 2009, at 3:34 PM, Corey Travioli wrote:
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>>>> Another one from the "Evil Doer"
>>>> http://www.google.com/advertising/holiday2009/
>>>> Wish the guys from Redmond and others copy this action too ...
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>>> So what they are saying is because we as individuals are too cheep
>>> to give to charity they are giving in our stead to shame us.  Yup, =
that is
>>> evil.
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>> I know it's off-topic, but I'm impressed with the idea that a public =
corporation can spend 8 figures on something that has essentially $0 ROI =
and multiple people here can find bad things about it.
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>> I'm shocked someone didn't say "but that's only 0.0000$WHATEVER =
percent of their profit!".
>>=20
>> Google does many things which can be argued as evil, or not, but I =
would say this is very much not one of them.
>>=20
>> --=20
>> TTFN,
>> patrick
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> --=20
> Ken Chase - ken@heavycomputing.ca - +1 416 897 6284 - Toronto CANADA
> Heavy Computing - Clued bandwidth, colocation and managed linux VPS =
@151 Front St. W.
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