[119970] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: news from Google
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ben Carleton)
Fri Dec 4 17:32:35 2009
From: Ben Carleton <bc-list@beztech.net>
In-Reply-To: <d99aaed40912041415lb981ec7r778cd9b169d28978@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 17:31:43 -0500
To: Martin Hannigan <martin@theicelandguy.com>
Cc: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com, nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
I don' think that google will be able to kill opendns right now. Neither =
google nor any of the other well known DNS services provide the =
"value-added services" that OpenDNS does, such as filtering, etc which =
can be a godsend for small businesses that can't afford a rackful of =
gear...
BGC
On Dec 4, 2009, at 5:15 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:37 PM, <bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com> wrote:
>=20
>> On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 03:34:10PM -0500, Martin Hannigan wrote:
>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Christopher Morrow
>>> <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>wrote:
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>>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:53 AM, Richard Bennett =
<richard@bennett.com>
>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> Google will be all sweetness and light until they've crushed
>> OpenDNS,
>>>>> and when the competitor's out of the picture, they'll get down to
>> the
>>>>> monetizing.
>>>>=20
>>>> one note: OpenDNS is not the only 'competitor' here.... just one of
>>>> the better obviously known ones.
>>>>=20
>>>> ie:
>>>> 4.2.2.2 L(3)
>>>> 198.6.1.1/2/3/4/5/122/142/146/195 ex-UU
>>>> Neustar (can't recall ips, sorry)
>>>>=20
>>>> -chris
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Why did Google put an infrastructure critical application into PA =
space?
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>>=20
>> whats PA space in this context? clearly 8.0.0.0/8 was =
allocated
>> prior to any current group-think about what PA might be.
>>=20
>> --bill
>>=20
>=20
>=20
> Let's call it "conceptual PA". I'm simply asking why something that =
has the
> potential to impact all of us is being numbered into address space =
other
> than their own?
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> And before the thinkpol start in, I'm referring to the v4 addresses =
and
> their status. It's a fair question since it has major impact on the =
net. If
> the store for legacy v4 addresses is open I'd like to know what street =
it's
> on.
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> Best,
>=20
> -M<
>=20
> --=20
> Martin Hannigan martin@theicelandguy.com
> p: +16178216079
> Power, Network, and Costs Consulting for Iceland Datacenters and =
Occupants