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RE: news from Google

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Scott Berkman)
Fri Dec 4 13:54:05 2009

From: "Scott Berkman" <scott@sberkman.net>
To: "'Christopher Morrow'" <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>,
	"'Richard Bennett'" <richard@bennett.com>
In-Reply-To: <75cb24520912041025o1ef0697ub0995dde3a0146d5@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 13:53:17 -0500
Cc: nanog@nanog.org, ken@heavycomputing.ca
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

You really can=92t count the open Level3/GTEI DNS servers as a =
competitor for
OpenDNS or what Google has just released.  These are completely =
unsupported,
and use of these servers from outside Level 3 has been blocked/delayed =
at
different times.  I use these all the time for testing and for my own
personal use, but depending on these for anything production is a very =
bad
idea.  Plus OpenDNS's model is based on selling you their higher level
services, while I am sure Google will eventually link the service to =
google
accounts to track your web usage just like they track, index, and show =
you
ads based on your web searches, email messages, etc.

Then again, depending on OpenDNS, Google, or anything else outside your
control for production services probably isn't a good idea anyway.

	-Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Morrow [mailto:morrowc.lists@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:25 PM
To: Richard Bennett
Cc: nanog@nanog.org; ken@heavycomputing.ca
Subject: Re: news from Google

On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 5:53 AM, Richard Bennett <richard@bennett.com> =
wrote:

> =A0 Google will be all sweetness and light until they've crushed =
OpenDNS,
> =A0 and when the competitor's out of the picture, they'll get down to =
the
> =A0 monetizing.

one note: OpenDNS is not the only 'competitor' here.... just one of
the better obviously known ones.

ie:
4.2.2.2  L(3)
198.6.1.1/2/3/4/5/122/142/146/195 ex-UU
Neustar (can't recall ips, sorry)

-chris




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