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RE: Consumer Grade - IPV6 Enabled Router Firewalls.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Frank Bulk)
Fri Dec 4 00:11:11 2009

From: "Frank Bulk" <frnkblk@iname.com>
To: <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <C1920346B731FE48822877D74F28C8A307A9440210@CATL0MS112.corp.cox.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 23:09:35 -0600
Reply-To: frnkblk@iname.com
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Give their emulator a try:
http://support.dlink.com/emulators/dir615_revC/310NA/login.htm

Perhaps this is a dumb question, but without DHCPv6 IA_PD support, how are
"other" large service providers rolling out IPv6 for their cable broadband,
xDSL, BWA, and FTTH customers?  100% SLAAC?

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: Jason.Weil@cox.com [mailto:Jason.Weil@cox.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 8:54 PM
To: jbates@brightok.net; newton@internode.com.au
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Consumer Grade - IPV6 Enabled Router Firewalls.

One of the better/only decent implementations I have run across in the
retail world so far is the D-Link 615SW. Look for the IPv6_Ready Gold cert
emblem (found this on an encap at Fry's and nobody in the department knew
what IPv6 was) on the front of the box for easy recognition although there
are other modems with RevC (think Rev_B works as well) firmware that don't
have the label but work as well. The major feature missing is DHCPv6 IA_PD
but you won't find this on any retail router that I am aware of today. What
you will find though is WAN interface config via static, stateful or
stateless DHCPv6 as well as stateful and stateless PPPoEv6. It even offers a
DHCPv6 server for your LAN interfaces to boot.

I am not sure if this product was built for the Japanese market and is now
being released here to determine interest from the retail sector but it is
useful for a trial lab or for testing at home. The major caveat of course is
that all the IPv6 configs are done in Advanced Config mode and hence not
designed for plug-and-play for your average home user.

Jason
________________________________________
From: Jack Bates [jbates@brightok.net]
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:06 PM
To: Mark Newton
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Consumer Grade - IPV6 Enabled Router Firewalls.

Mark Newton wrote:
> The fact that someone got OpenWRT working in less than a week of spare
> time makes it totally clear why the commercial vendors haven't done
> anything:  They're just simply not interested, nothing more, nothing
> less.

I suspect they didn't use DHCPv6-PD with that OpenWRT. I've had issues
with the dhcp client that comes with it in the past, though I've had an
ubuntu box acting as a router with wide-dhcp doing -PD. It works okay,
although the devs really should look at better support on the automatic
address assignment model and support for PD issued from PD. Of course, I
suspect there's just not enough interest in the linux dev community to
bother.

Finally, one of the home router firmware companies (which I believe
linksys used when they didn't use linux) has had IPv6 support in their
codebase for a year now. See nanog history. The manufacturers that use
their code don't seem to have implemented the new IPv6 code.


Jack (sick, so if it doesn't make sense, sorry)






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