[119692] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: What DNS Is Not
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Conrad)
Thu Nov 26 10:38:58 2009
From: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
In-Reply-To: <20091126004109.GA11670@dan.olp.net>
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:37:56 -0800
To: Dan White <dwhite@olp.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Hi,
On Nov 25, 2009, at 4:41 PM, Dan White wrote:
> On 25/11/09 14:17 -0800, David Conrad wrote:
>> On Nov 25, 2009, at 1:22 PM, Dan White wrote:
>>> Contact ICANN/IANA and plead with them to stop assigning any more =
resources
>>> to said ISP.
>>=20
>> ICANN/IANA doesn't assign resources to ISPs.
>=20
> Indirectly they're responsible for assignment of IP address,
In the sense that they allocate /8s (and, in IPv6, /12s) to the RIRs, =
sure. I'm just guessing but I don't think the RIRs would be very happy =
if ICANN/IANA were to refuse to allocate a /8 (or a /12) to an RIR =
because one of the RIRs' customers was hijacking NXDOMAINs.
> enterprise numbers,
Actually, ICANN/IANA assigns these directly (see http://pen.iana.org), =
but I suspect the folks in the IETF would get a bit distressed if =
ICANN/IANA started imposing restrictions on who could get PENs.
> domain names
ICANN/IANA is directly responsible for (and has contractual =
relationships with folks who operate) gTLDs and has, to the distress of =
some folks on this list, imposed restrictions on =
wildcards/synthesis/etc. ICANN/IANA discourages wildcards/synthesis/etc =
for ccTLDs, but the operation of a ccTLD is considered a national =
sovereignty issue and thus, ICANN/IANA has no way to do anything other =
than point out the problems wildcards/synthesis/etc. can lead to. As I =
write this, there are 11 ccTLDs that do wildcards/synthesis/etc. and =
there will undoubtedly be more in the future. ICANN/IANA has no =
interaction with, much less control, over ISPs.
> My point was there isn't really an authority to enforce rules on ISPs =
when
> it comes to how they manage their DNS servers.
Yep.
> Government and IANA won't be interested in fielding such complaints.
Government might -- politicians like to be seen solving problems, even =
if they haven't the slightest idea what the problem is, whether it =
actually is a problem, or how to go about fixing it.
With the exception of the gTLDs, ICANN/IANA simply can't -- it has no =
mechanism to do anything other than wag its finger.
> Shining a flash light on the problem publicly is going to be the best =
best.
There are folks on this list who work for ISPs which are doing =
wildcards/synthesis/etc. They (or, more likely their management) can =
tell you there are obvious business reasons why they do =
wildcards/synthesis/etc. Perhaps I'm overly cynical, but I suspect that =
until those business reasons go away, shining a flash light will =
probably just result in more ISPs implementing wildcards/synthesis/etc.=20=
Regards,
-drc
