[119658] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: fight club :) richard bennett vs various nanogers, on paid peering
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Wed Nov 25 10:34:43 2009
From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
In-Reply-To: <48319.1259161990@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:33:15 -0500
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Nov 25, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:32:02 PST, Richard Bennett said:
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>> ITIF is not opposed to network neutrality=20
>> in principle, having released a paper on "A Third Way on Network=20
>> Neutrality", http://www.itif.org/index.php?id=3D63.
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> All of four paragraphs, which don't in fact address what the provider =
is or is
> not providing to Joe Sixpack - point 1 says discriminatory plans are =
OK as long
> as the discriminatory are on display in the cellar of the ISP office, =
with no
> stairs, in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused =
lavatory
> with a sign on the door saying Beware of the Leopard.
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> And points 2 and 3 are saying that this should all be overseen by the =
same
> agencies that oversaw the previous decade's massive buildout of fiber =
to the
> home that was financed by massive multi-billion dollar incentives.
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> Oh wait, those billions got pocketed - if the massive fiber buildout =
had
> happened, we'd have so much bandwidth that neutrality wouldn't be an =
issue...
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> But then, the Republicans keep saying they are not opposed to health =
care
> reform in principle either...
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Me, I'm reminded of the fact that those on the edge of suburban areas =
have fewer choices than those in purely rural areas. Some carriers have =
been formed just to solve the basic telephony access issues of PSTN =
recently, eg:
http://telephonyonline.com/mag/telecom_dont_mad_ilec/
Me? I want to see a ban on replacing copper based networking as part of =
the outside plant.
- Jared
http://www.allband.org/=
