[119596] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Who has AS 1712?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Randy Bush)
Tue Nov 24 16:22:36 2009
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:21:00 +0900
From: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
To: Justin Shore <justin@justinshore.com>
In-Reply-To: <4B0C48DF.1040806@justinshore.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
> Of course if it was already assigned when IANA said that (no dates on
> the link above) then maybe the fault is more IANA's for telling another
> RIR that they could allocate an ASN that another RIR already allocated.
i suspect that, in the erx project, there may have been more than one
case of the iana saying "ok, X now manages this block, excpet of course
for those pieces already allocated by Y and Z." and the latter were not
always well defined or easily learnable, and were not registered
directly with the iana, but other rirs.
<rant>
and the data are all buried in whois, which is not well-defined, stats
files, which are not defined, etc. the rirs, in the thrall of nih (you
did know that ripe/ncc invented the bicycle), spent decades not agreeing
on common formats, protocols, or code. this is one result thereof.
testosterone kills, and the community gets the collateral damage.
randy
