[119122] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Pros and Cons of Cloud Computing in dealing with DDoS
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dobbins, Roland)
Sat Nov 7 21:37:56 2009
From: "Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins@arbor.net>
To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 02:33:39 +0000
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On Nov 8, 2009, at 2:33 AM, Stefan Fouant wrote:
> if the discussion hasn't shifted from that of DDoS to EDoS, it =20
> should.
All DDoS is 'EDoS' - it's a distinction without a difference, IMHO.
DDoS costs opex, can cost direct revenue, can induce capex spends - =20
it's all about economics at bottom, always has been, or nobody would =20
care in the first place. And look at click-fraud attacks in which the =20
miscreants either a) are committing fraud by causing botnets to make =20
fake clicks so that they can be paid for same or b) wish to exhaust a =20
rival's advertising budget when he's paying per-impression. Plain old =20
packet-flooding DDoSes can cost victims/unwitting sources big money in =20
transit costs, can cost SPs in transit and/or violating peering =20
agreements, etc.
There's no need or justification for a separate term; Chris Hoff =20
bounced 'EDoS' around earlier this year, and the same arguments apply.
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