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Re: New Class C's just lit on on AT&T, spamming

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jon Lewis)
Tue Nov 3 13:04:06 2009

Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:03:02 -0500 (EST)
From: Jon Lewis <jlewis@lewis.org>
To: Jay Hennigan <jay@west.net>
In-Reply-To: <4AF06E53.106@west.net>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Tue, 3 Nov 2009, Jay Hennigan wrote:

>> I don't see how this relates to IPv4-runout.  The allocation (to AT&T) 
>> isn't all that new...and when they cancel this spammer, the space will 
>> undoubtedly be assigned to another customer.
>
> And that other customer will find that it's poisoned space and will need to 
> look for another subnet.

I don't buy that once IP space has been used by a spammer it's ruined 
forever.  Only if abuse complaints are ignored for a considerable time are 
the IPs likely to end up widely privately blacklisted.  Even then, I don't 
believe "space is widely blacklisted, please give us more" is a valid 
justification for going to ARIN for more IPs.

We've terminated spammer customers...and reused their assignments.

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