[118590] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Interesting Point of view
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (a.harrowell@gmail.com)
Sat Oct 24 05:12:16 2009
From: a.harrowell@gmail.com
To: "Martin, Paul" <Paul.Martin@viatel.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 10:11:33 +0100
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Reply-To: a.harrowell@gmail.com
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
I'd like to apologise in advance for SOCA. Frankly, I am surprised that =
they are even aware of RIPE or its role in life. They have done so poorly =
since subsuming the old National Hi-Tech Crime Unit that the other police =
forces want NHTCU back.
It ought to be superfluous to point out that the only effective action =
taken against RBN was by the Internet community in getting all their =
upstreams to null route them. As is blindingly obvious, SOCA would never =
have been granted a warrant by the Russians.
Pathetic to take it out on RIPE.=20
-original message-
Subject: RE: Interesting Point of view - Russian police and RIPE accused of =
aiding RBN
From: "Martin, Paul" <Paul.Martin@viatel.com>
Date: 24/10/2009 9:23 am
So considering they're widely regarded as a criminal network hosting =
the
more dodgy/dangerous stuff on the net, surely we could 'protect' our
customers by blocking the 91.202.60.0/22 range?
Consider that can of worms opened :o)
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Lyon [mailto:jeffrey.lyon@blacklotus.net]=20
Sent: 24 October 2009 08:18
To: Suresh Ramasubramanian
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Interesting Point of view - Russian police and RIPE =
accused
of aiding RBN
Since we're on the subject, here is where RBN went:
inetnum: 91.202.60.0 - 91.202.63.255
netname: AKRINO-NET
descr: Akrino Inc
country: VG
org: ORG-AI38-RIPE
admin-c: IVM27-RIPE
tech-c: IVM27-RIPE
status: ASSIGNED PI
mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-HM-PI-MNT
mnt-by: MNT-AKRINO
mnt-lower: RIPE-NCC-HM-PI-MNT
mnt-routes: MNT-AKRINO
mnt-domains: MNT-AKRINO
source: RIPE # Filtered
organisation: ORG-AI38-RIPE
org-name: Akrino Inc
org-type: OTHER
address: Akrino Inc.
address: P.O.Box 146 Trident Chambers
address: Road Town, Tortola
address: BVI
e-mail: noc.akrino@gmail.com
mnt-ref: MNT-AKRINO
mnt-by: MNT-AKRINO
source: RIPE # Filtered
person: Igoren V Murzak
address: Akrino Inc
address: P.O.Box 146 Trident Chambers
address: Road Town, Tortola
address: BVI
phone: +1 914 5952753
e-mail: noc.akrino@gmail.com
nic-hdl: IVM27-RIPE
mnt-by: MNT-AKRINO
source: RIPE # Filtered
% Information related to '91.202.60.0/22AS44571'
route: 91.202.60.0/22
descr: AKRINO BLOCK
origin: AS44571
mnt-by: MNT-AKRINO
source: RIPE # Filtered
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 3:00 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
<ops.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
>
http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/russian-police-and-internet-registry-a
ccused-of-aiding-cybercrime-2165
>
> Some quotes from the article -
>
> Internet registry RIPE NCC turned a blind eye to cybercrime, and
Russian police
> corruption helped the perpetrators get away with it, according to =
the
UK
> Serious Organised Crime Agency
>
> [...]
>
> "RIPE was being paid by RBN for that service, for its IP =
allocation,"
he said.
> "Essentially what you have - and I make no apologies for saying =
this
is - if
> you were going to interpret this very harshly RIPE as the IP
allocation body
> was receiving criminal funds and therefore RIPE was involved in =
money
> laundering offences," said Auld.
>
> [...]
>
> "All we could get there was a disruption, we weren't able to get a
prosecution
> in Russia," admitted Auld. "Our biggest concern is where did RBN =
go?
Our
> information suggests that RBN is back in business but now pursuing =
a
slightly
> different business model which is bad news."
>
> [...]
>
> "Where you have got LIRs (Local Internet Registries) set up to run =
a
criminal
> business- that is criminal actvity being taken by the regional
internet
> registries themselves. "So what we are trying to do is work with =
them
to make
> internet governance a somewhat less permissive environment for
criminals and
> make it more about protecting consumers and individuals," added =
Auld.
> RBN looked legitimate, says RIPE NCC
>
> In response to the comments that it could be accused of being =
involved
in
> criminal activity, Paul Rendek, head of external relations and
communications
> at RIPE NCC said that the organisation has very strict guidelines =
for
dealing
> with LIRs.
>
> "The RBN was accepted as an LIR based on our checklists," he said."
Our
> checklists include the provision of proof that a prospective LIR =
has
the
> necessary legal documentation, which proves that a business is bona
fide."
>
> etc
>
>
--=20
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