[118475] in North American Network Operators' Group

home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post

Re: ISP/VPN's to China?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (tvest@eyeconomics.com)
Thu Oct 22 08:35:31 2009

From: tvest@eyeconomics.com
To: Chris Edwards <chris@eng.gla.ac.uk>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOC.4.64.0910221236100.20354@bowling.cent.gla.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:33:09 -0400
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


On Oct 22, 2009, at 7:38 AM, Chris Edwards wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009, Alex Balashov wrote:
>
> | Understood.  I guess the angle I was going more for was:  Is this =20=

> actually
> | practical to do in a country with almost as many Internet users as =20=

> the US has
> | people?
> |
> | I had always assumed that broad policies and ACLs work in China, =20
> but most
> | forms of DPI and traffic pattern analysis aren't practical simply =20=

> for
> | computational feasibility reasons.  Not unless the system were =20
> highly
> | distributed.
>
> Perhaps they only need make an example of a few, and thus introduce an
> element of fear for everyone else.

Not "a few," but rather quite a lot, albeit only infrequently, and at =20=

unpredictable intervals, with a very high inclusion/exclusion error =20
rate -- an artifact of the absence clear and easily demonstrable line =20=

between compliance/non-compliance (which is itself an artifact of the =20=

=E5=86=85=E9=83=A8 [internally published only] nature of many of the =
related rules).

http://www.usc.cuhk.edu.hk/wk_wzdetails.asp?id=3D2791
www.usc.cuhk.edu.hk/webmanager/wkfiles/2791_1_paper.pdf

TV



home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post