[118406] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: ISP/VPN's to China?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (tvest@eyeconomics.com)
Wed Oct 21 15:57:33 2009
From: tvest@eyeconomics.com
To: Benjamin Billon <bbillon-ml@splio.fr>
In-Reply-To: <4ADF5DB0.5030909@splio.fr>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:56:29 -0400
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Very interesting rundown of current infrastructure option -- thanks!
On Oct 21, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Benjamin Billon wrote:
> Hi,
>
> if you're talking about Mainland China in general (not Hong Kong =20
> specifically), indeed IPSEC VPN may not provide desired level of =20
> service.
> During the time I spent there, we opted for:
> - CNC MPLS for 4 sites in China
> - Equant MPLS between Beijing and other worldwide sites
> - Then replaced at high price Equant by Verizon MPLS in order to =20
> connect worldwide sites through Pacific links instead of Suez Canal
> - Then replaced Verizon by higher bandwidth Equant MPLS because =20
> Verizon's service was seriously bad. Not the link, but the service =20
> around it.
>
> At that time, Verizon used China Telecom as contractor, and I think =20=
> Equant used CNC. Not sure about that, though.
Verizon =3D CT: also consistent with my memory (and an easy guess since =20=
there is no alternative)
Equant =3D CNC: Perhaps you mean China Unicom =3D)
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> Between each site (Beijing to three others in China, and Beijing to =20=
> others worldwide), there was backup IPSEC VPN set up "just in case". =20=
> Hopefully we didn't had to use them, because they was down from time =20=
> to time and bandwidth was inconsistent.
>
> "Great Firewall buddy" is not to charge this time.
>
> ChrisSerafin a =E9crit :
>> I have a client in the US looking to connect up an office in China =20=
>> and I'm wondering what type of connections are avilable and wether =20=
>> IPSEC VPNs can be established through the 'Great firewall of China'.
>>
>> I talked to a China Telcom rep in the US that says that the network =20=
>> congestion even in China makes VPN's difficult. =46rom their website, =
=20
>> I see that the majority of the country is using xDSL, or 2MB =20
>> dedicated lines.
>>
>> Can anyone shed any light on this topic? Thanks!
>>
>> chris@chrisserafin.com
>>
>