[117949] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Wed Oct 7 09:31:05 2009
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <200910062327.n96NRt5E093517@aurora.sol.net>
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 06:25:53 -0700
To: Joe Greco <jgreco@ns.sol.net>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Oct 6, 2009, at 4:27 PM, Joe Greco wrote:
>> Someone else pointed out that if the system in question has been
>> botted/owned/pwn3d/whatever
>> you want to call it, then, you can't guarantee it would make the 911
>> call correctly anyway.
>
> I realize that many NANOG'ers don't actually use the technologies that
> we talk about, so I'm just going to correct this:
>
> You seem to be under the mistaken assumption that most people using
> VoIP
> do so using their computer. While it kind of started out that way
> years
> ago, it simply isn't so anymore. Most VoIP services can be
> configured to
> work with an analog telephony adapter, providing a POTS jack. Most
> VoIP
> services even provide one as part of the subscription, sometimes for a
> fee.
>
I do use VOIP, bot computer and non-computer based. None the less, the
fact remains that should any of my systems become compromised, my
ability to make a VOIP phone call is in doubt regardless of what the
provider does.
Additionally the problems of DDOS sourced from a collection of
compromised
hosts could be interfering with someone else's ability to make a
successful
VOIP call.
Abuse sources should be blocked from impacting the rest of the network.
This blocking should be as narrow as possible.
Owen
