[117868] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: ISP customer assignments
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com)
Mon Oct 5 17:33:41 2009
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 21:32:03 +0000
From: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com
To: Chris Owen <owenc@hubris.net>
In-Reply-To: <DA3E742D-2939-42A2-898F-7E1D1EA42730@hubris.net>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
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considered top posting to irritate a few folks, decided not to.
On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 04:20:44PM -0500, Chris Owen wrote:
> On Oct 5, 2009, at 1:43 PM, Wayne E. Bouchard wrote:
>
> >Whenever you declare something to be "inexhasutable" all you do is
> >increase demand. Eventually you reach a point where you realize that
> >there is, in fact, a limit to the inexhaustable resource.
>
> This is where I think there is a major disconnect on IPv6. The size
> of the pool is just so large that people just can't wrap their heads
> around it.
>
> 2^128 is enough space for every man, woman and child on the planet to
> have around 4 billion /64s to themselves. Even if we assume everyone
> might possibly need say 10 /64s per person that still means we are
> covered until the population hits around 2,600,000,000,000,000,000.
>
> Chris
>
here, you expose a hidebound bias to 20th century networking.
please remember that - with few exceptions - people network
at a very different level than machines. people don't need
IP addresses - computing nodes that want to communicate do.
Just for grins, put a unique IPv6 address in every active RFID
tag. ... and remember that there are RFID printers that can
put 18 tags on a single A4 sheet. Numbers will become disposible,
like starbucks coffee cups and MCD's bigmac containers.
--bill
