[117825] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for botted
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lee Howard)
Mon Oct 5 08:32:38 2009
From: "Lee Howard" <lee@asgard.org>
To: "'Christopher Morrow'" <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>,
"'Peter Beckman'" <beckman@angryox.com>
In-Reply-To: <75cb24520910041303y6c89685bwb50f4ca86e597296@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:32:17 -0400
Cc: 'NANOG' <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Morrow [mailto:morrowc.lists@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 4:04 PM
> To: Peter Beckman
> Cc: NANOG
> Subject: Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for =
botted
clients
>=20
> On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Peter Beckman <beckman@angryox.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> > =A0service being cut off. =A0However it is ignorance and lack of =
maintenance
> > =A0that makes viruses and botnets so prevelant that it may just be =
time to
> > =A0bite the bullet and force users to learn how to maintain their
machines.
>=20
> because this works so well with:
>=20
> 1) cars
> 2) home-security
> 3) personal security wandering around cities/towns
>=20
> I note that I'm not particularly against any of the proposal, just the
> 'people need a drivers license to get on the interwebz'... it's been
> tried many times before, always without success.
I'm trying to understand your analogy, but it's hidden in the sarcasm.
Your assertion is that education (and you've decided to include =
licensing,=20
for some reason) of drivers and the rest is ineffective? You're not=20
opposed to user education, you just believe it's useless because it will =
only reduce, not eliminate, badness?
Lee
