[117814] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for botted
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher Morrow)
Sun Oct 4 16:04:18 2009
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0910041450220.4388@nog.angryox.com>
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 16:03:44 -0400
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
To: Peter Beckman <beckman@angryox.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Peter Beckman <beckman@angryox.com> wrote:
> =A0service being cut off. =A0However it is ignorance and lack of maintena=
nce
> =A0that makes viruses and botnets so prevelant that it may just be time t=
o
> =A0bite the bullet and force users to learn how to maintain their machine=
s.
because this works so well with:
1) cars
2) home-security
3) personal security wandering around cities/towns
I note that I'm not particularly against any of the proposal, just the
'people need a drivers license to get on the interwebz'... it's been
tried many times before, always without success.
I would also point out that Qwest does this walled-garden approach for
their customers (have been for at least 5 years now? DonS@qwest could
clarify) and they've seen success with it. Aliant in .ca also has some
fairly aggressive anti-malware works installed. There are places
where this sort of thing works well, planned and engineered properly.
I think Qwest, at least, made some of their reasoning and design/goals
publicly available for a time as well.
-Chris
