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Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher Morrow)
Wed Sep 16 00:41:39 2009

In-Reply-To: <4AB064D6.7000604@bogus.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:41:23 -0400
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
To: Joel Jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org, Shawn Somers <Shawn.Somers@gmail.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Joel Jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> wrote:
> Christopher Morrow wrote:
>>
>> Spammers have a lot of variables to change in this equation, RIR's
>> dont always have the ability to see all of the variables, nor
>> correlate all of the changes they see :(
>
> Being a crimnal enterprise there are some tools in your kit that a
> legitimate business does not have. The problems =A0becomes, =A0how the

that was my point, yes.

> raising the legitimacy bar more effectively discriminates against
> legitimate entities then crimnal one's.
>
> If a discriminatory measure were for example to raise the bar for new
> entrants that, by it's nature represents an Internet scale tragedy.

I think we are in agreement on this issue, and the above actually.

-Chris


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