[117487] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Shawn Somers)
Tue Sep 15 11:02:43 2009
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:01:48 -0700
From: Shawn Somers <Shawn.Somers@gmail.com>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1253016001.93719.nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
I'd be more than happy to see this, with the added caveat that anyone
that returned address space to ARIN that was subsequently marked as
'contaminated', should undergo a review process when attempting to
obtain new address space. Charge them for the review process
Anyone that intentionally uses address space in a manner that they
know will cause it to become contaminated should be denied on any
further address space requests.
Another option, is to hit them where it matters. Assign fines and fees
for churning address space and returning it as contaminated. Set the
fee's on a sliding scale based on the amount of contamination and churn.
the more contamination, the higher the fee.
Shawn Somers
Michiel Klaver wrote:
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:57:58 +0200
> From: Michiel Klaver <michiel@klaver.it>
> Subject: RE: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation, replaced by
> registered use
> To: "Azinger, Marla" <marla.azinger@frontiercorp.com>, John Curran
> <jcurran@arin.net>, "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
> Message-ID: <4AAF6526.9000904@klaver.it>
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> I think ARIN is no party to contact all RBL's and do any cleanup of
> 'contaminated' address space. The only steps ARIN might do are:
>
> - When requesting address space, one should be able to indicate whether
> receiving previous used address space would be unwanted or not.
>
> - When assigning address space, ARIN should notify receivers if it's
> re-used or virgin address space.
>
> - When address space got returned to ARIN and there is evidence of
> abuse, they have to mark that address space as 'contaminated' and only
> re-assign that space to new end-users who have indicated to have no
> problem with that.
>
>
>
> With kind regards,
>
> Michiel Klaver
> IT Professional