[117296] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com)
Wed Sep 9 01:57:08 2009
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 05:54:38 +0000
From: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com
To: Peter Beckman <beckman@angryox.com>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0909081722170.85863@nog.angryox.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
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sounds like domain tasting to me.
--bill
On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 01:04:48AM -0400, Peter Beckman wrote:
> How about a trial period from ARIN? You get your IP block, and you get 30
> days to determine if it is "clean" or not. Do some testing, check the
> blacklists, do some magic to see if there are network-specific blacklists
> that might prevent your customers from sending or receiving email/web/other
> connections with that new IP block.
>
> If there are problems, go back to ARIN and show them your work and if they
> can verify your work (or are simply lazy) you get a different block. ARIN
> puts the block into another quiet period. Maybe they use the work you did
> to clean up the block, maybe they don't.
>
> Cleaning up a block of IPs previously used by shady characters has a real
> cost, both in time and money. The argument as I see it is who bears the
> responsibility and cost of that cleanup.
>
> Beckman
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