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Re: AT&T. Layer 6-8 needed.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jon Lewis)
Mon Jul 27 09:25:48 2009

Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:24:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jon Lewis <jlewis@lewis.org>
To: jamie <j@arpa.com>
In-Reply-To: <6ff30abd0907262135l17d3c807o6366ed8810cf9b03@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org >> nanog" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Sun, 26 Jul 2009, jamie wrote:

> If any ISP of mine filtered my (where my = brick-and-mortar-corp) access to
> any destination because of another customer (there are *always* technical
> solutions to problems you describe, the one you implemented wouldn't even
> make my list), you'd have one less customer and quite likely a Tortious
> Interference claim..

I don't know if they still do it, or if their old "Abuse/Security guy, 
Travis Haymore" is still around, but above.net had a history of null 
routing "destinations they didn't like", which meant if you were a 
customer (even a multihomed one) and sent them traffic for those 
destinations, you wouldn't get there.  Getting the list of null routed 
space from above.net was not trivial.

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