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Re: Use of Default in the DFZ: banned in philly, see it now on the

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jack Bates)
Wed Jun 24 14:21:37 2009

Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:19:54 -0500
From: Jack Bates <jbates@brightok.net>
To: Ricardo Oliveira <rveloso@cs.ucla.edu>
In-Reply-To: <2BE52E9B-6E13-4154-B88E-A683EF221FE0@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

8025, and thanks for labeling us small transit guys as stub. I have 
transit customers that have higher user counts than I do. :P

Randy's page just mentioned stub as not having transit customers.

By your definition, we are stub. 4 ASNs under mine, since customers not 
needing BGP don't use it and we inject their routes into our AS. Some 
may be undetectable due to routing policies.


Jack

Ricardo Oliveira wrote:
> Jack,
> Please give me your ASN and i'll double check our data. As long as the 
> network has 4 or less downstreams, it's  being labeled as "stub".
> More details here:
> http://www.cs.ucla.edu/~rveloso/papers/completeness-ton.pdf
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --Ricardo



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