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Re: Fiber cut - response in seconds?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joel Jaeggli)
Tue Jun 2 14:22:53 2009

Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 11:21:53 -0700
From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
In-Reply-To: <223710.1243966061@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>,
	Dave Wilson <richard.wilson@senokian.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

link-layer encryption for sonet/atm quite resistant to traffic
analysis... The pipe is full of pdus whether you're using them or not.

Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:54:44 EDT, Martin Hannigan said:
>> It would also be cheaper to add an additional layer of security with
>> encryption vs. roving teams of gun toting manhole watchers.
> 
> Even if encrypted, you can probably do an amazing amount of traffic
> analysis to tell when something is afoot.  Ask any pizzeria near State Dept
> or Pentagon. ;)
> 
> (That, plus it's easier to break an encryption if you have gigabytes of
> data to work with, than if you don't have any data to work with...)


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