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RE: Why choose 120 volts?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dave Larter)
Wed May 27 18:40:17 2009

Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 18:39:37 -0400
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905271823500.848@murf.icantclick.org>
From: "Dave Larter" <dave@stayonline.com>
To: "david raistrick" <drais@icantclick.org>,
	"Seth Mattinen" <sethm@rollernet.us>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

The ground is not supposed to carry any current where as the neutral is.
If you tried to carry current on the ground of a CGFI protected circuit
it would trip.=20

-----Original Message-----
From: david raistrick [mailto:drais@icantclick.org]=20
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:30 PM
To: Seth Mattinen
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Why choose 120 volts?

On Wed, 27 May 2009, Seth Mattinen wrote:

> Here's the L-G voltage off the 208v taps from an isolation transformer
in a=20
> system with no neutral: http://ninjamonkey.us/not_120_volts.jpg

Not 120, but 90 give or take.  90 is at the low end of the acceptable=20
range for common household 110/120v service.

Depending on how the phases are balanced in your facility, you may see=20
that fluctuate up or down, of course.  If you measure hot to hot on the=20
same PDU, do you get anywhere close to 208?  I'm going to suspect either

your fairly out of balance, or you've got a good bit of voltage drop by=20
the time it arrives....


But since the concensus from those who haven't used this is that the=20
device will present 208/240 at the 5-15 plug, I withdraw my suggestion
and=20
leave you to your own methods.   (for the rest, test it yourself)

I also won't argue using ground for neutral, that's like arguing bonded
vs=20
unbonded panels.



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