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Re: two interfaces one subnet

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Chris Meidinger)
Mon May 11 16:48:23 2009

From: Chris Meidinger <cmeidinger@sendmail.com>
To: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>,
	Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
In-Reply-To: <4183F952-A7B3-41E3-9C6B-FDB8245B301F@ianai.net>
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 22:45:53 +0200
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On 11.05.2009, at 22:34, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:

> On May 11, 2009, at 4:29 PM, Chris Meidinger wrote:
>
>> I would be grateful for a pointer to such an RFC statement,  
>> assuming it exists.
>
> Why would an RFC prohibit this?
>
> Most _implementations_ do, but as far as network "rules" in general  
> it is a valid configuration.

That was essentially my conclusion as well: logically it can't work,  
but I wasn't certain where it might be forbidden.

Thusly did I come to NANOG with the question, thinking smarter people  
than I might know. If it's completely down to implementation, or  
really to the interaction between TCP and underlying IP, then so be  
it. I was hoping that I might just not have thought of the right place  
to look.

On 11.05.2009, at 22:39, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:

> On Mon, 11 May 2009, Chris Meidinger wrote:
>
>> I've been looking through RFC's trying to find a clear statement  
>> that having two interfaces in the same subnet does not work, but  
>> can't find it that statement anywhere.
>
> I don't know if it still works, but it did in Linux little over 10  
> years back. Proxy-arp:ed all the IPs in the /27 in the /24 and  
> everything was fine (legacy reasons plus radiolink which I didn't  
> want to run a lot of broadcasts over). There are "legitimate" cases  
> where you might want to do this.

Yes, I've gotten it to work as well as little as 10 days ago, but it's  
not something that $random_customer should be doing as a matter of  
practice.

Thus, again, my hope that I just wasn't thinking of the right place to  
look to find an IETF recommendation against doing so.

Thanks for the input!

Chris


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