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Re: Where to buy Internet IP addresses

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen Sprunk)
Tue May 5 14:39:40 2009

Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 13:39:25 -0500
From: Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
To: Charles Wyble <charles@thewybles.com>
In-Reply-To: <4A007739.3010808@thewybles.com>
Cc: north American Noise and Off-topic Gripes <nanog@merit.edu>,
	Joe Greco <jgreco@ns.sol.net>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

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Charles Wyble wrote:
>> ([*] according to the wiki, firewire and zigbee are the only things 
>> using EUI-64.  I don't know of anyone using firewire as a network 
>> backbone.  (obviously, not that you care.)  Zigbee is relatively new 
>> and similar to bluetooth; will people use them as a NIC or connect 
>> little zigbee gadgets to the internet -- well, there are coffee 
>> makers, vending machines, and christmas lights on the internet, so as 
>> a novelty, certainly. How many bluetooth devices are running IP over 
>> bluetooth?  That said, I could see PAN meshes (personal area 
>> networks) eating a huge number of addresses, but /64???)
>
> Utility companies utilize Zigbee pretty extensively. So that's 
> millions and millions of addresses right there.

A million addresses is 1/16th of one OUI in EUI-48, and there are 
4,194,304 OUIs (after you take out the local/global and 
multicast/unicast bits).  Billions or even trillions of addresses are 
manageable without needing EUI-64; millions is a drop in the bucket.  
Still, it's good to know that another link layer -- which people _will_ 
be running large IPv6 networks on -- is using EUI-64 and that it's not 
just a FireWire thing.

S

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