[113955] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Important New Requirement for IPv4 Requests
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Skywing)
Fri Apr 24 11:55:25 2009
From: Skywing <Skywing@valhallalegends.com>
To: Jo Rhett <jrhett@netconsonance.com>, Joe Greco <jgreco@ns.sol.net>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:55:07 -0500
Cc: "bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com" <bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com>,
"nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Of course, sftp and other ssh-based protocols are *still* hamstrung to a ma=
ximum of 32k data outstanding due to hardcoded SSH channel window sizes by =
default for most people, unless you're patching up both your clients and se=
rvers.
Sadly, this blows ssh out of the water for anything with even modest high-b=
itrate requirements over moderate-BDP links.
- S
-----Original Message-----
From: Jo Rhett <jrhett@netconsonance.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 23:27
To: Joe Greco <jgreco@ns.sol.net>
Cc: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com <bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com>; nanog@na=
nog.org <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: Important New Requirement for IPv4 Requests
On Apr 22, 2009, at 7:42 AM, Joe Greco wrote:
> While HTTP remains popular as a way to interact with humans,
> especially if
> you want to try to do redirects, acknowledge license agreements,
> etc., FTP
> is the file transfer protocol of choice for basic file transfer
Speak for yourself. I haven't used FTP to transfer files in 10 years
now. About 7 years ago I turned off FTP support for all of our
webhosting clients, and forced them to use SFTP. 3 left, for a net
loss of $45/month. And we stopped having to deal with the massive
undertaking that supporting FTP properly chrooted and capable of
dealing with all parts of the multi-mount web platform required.
We've never looked back.
Ever once in a while I find someone who's offering a file I want only
via FTP, and I chide them and they fix it ;-)
--
Jo Rhett
Net Consonance : consonant endings by net philanthropy, open source
and other randomness
