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Re: The real issue

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jon Lewis)
Tue Apr 21 23:51:36 2009

Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:49:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jon Lewis <jlewis@lewis.org>
To: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <75cb24520904211959y3baa1ccaobd43c23596ea776b@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: nanog list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, Christopher Morrow wrote:

> arin never (nor do any RIR) guarantee routability, nor do they even a
> method to affect routability of a network.

Sure they do.  They can and have put pressure on networks to stop 
advertisements from being propagated.  What they can actually do if their 
bluff is called, I have no idea, but I've seen their influence work.

>> 2) Have the current "owner" pay the market rate for the IP space
>
> ... that's somewhat hard since the current policies don't support
> that, and there is no real legal stance for legacy-allocations... For
> allocated post-legacy-times ARIN can start court proceedings, but ...
> that's a lengthy process and expensive.

Having looked back at old copies of the domain-template.txt and 
internet-number-template.txt, I really don't see why one group was 
grandfathered in with an indefinite free ride and the other was not at 
all.

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