[113822] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Important New Requirement for IPv4 Requests
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ricky Beam)
Tue Apr 21 23:40:18 2009
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:39:57 -0400
To: "Matthew Palmer" <mpalmer@hezmatt.org>, nanog@nanog.org
From: "Ricky Beam" <jfbeam@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20090422005731.GE4558@hezmatt.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:57:31 -0400, Matthew Palmer <mpalmer@hezmatt.org>
wrote:
>> FTP? Who uses FTP these days?
...
> A depressingly large number of people use FTP. Attempts to move them
> onto
> something less insane are fruitless. Even when the tools support it (and
> plenty of "web design" tools don't appear to do anything other than FTP),
> "we've always done it that way and it works fine and if we have to change
> something we'll move to another hosting company rather than click a
> different button in our program".
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:07:08 -0400, Daniel Senie <dts@senie.com> wrote:
> You are out of touch. FTP is used by nearly EVERY web hosting provider
> for updates of web sites. Anonymous FTP is not used.
These are not random, anonymous ftp connections. These are people who
login with a username and password, and are therefore, identifiable; and
even then, it's for access to manage their own site. A single IP address
pointing to a single server (or farm of servers) will, and DOES, work just
fine. I know, because I've done it for ~15 years.
When I ask "who", I'm asking about a paid for, external service -- just
like web hosting. No one calls up 1-800-Host-My-Crap and asks for "an FTP
server".
Bottom line... if your justification for a /19 is "FTP servers", you are
fully justified in laughing at them as you hang up the phone.
