[113771] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Important New Requirement for IPv4 Requests [re "impacting
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Tue Apr 21 14:03:43 2009
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
To: Roger Marquis <marquis@roble.com>
In-Reply-To: <20090421173652.DFA302B2154@mx5.roble.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:57:40 -0700
Cc: John Curran <jcurran@istaff.org>, nanog@nanog.org
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On Apr 21, 2009, at 10:36 AM, Roger Marquis wrote:
> John Curran wrote:
>> A) ARIN's not ignoring unneeded legacy allocations, but can't take
>> action without the Internet community first making some policy
>> on what action should be taken... Please get together with folks
>> of similar mind either via PPML or via Public Policy meeting at
>> the the Open Policy Bof, and then propose a policy accordingly.
>
> Thanks for the reply John, but PPML has not worked to-date. Too many
> legacy interests willing and able to veto any such attempt at a
> sustainable
> netblock return policy. Not sure how us folks, of a similar mind as
> it
> were, would be able to change that equation. IMO this change has to
> come
> from the top down. Towards that goal can you give us any hint as to
> how to
> effect that?
>
At this point, the community consists of far more non-legacy holders
than legacy holders. Additionally, nobody has "VETO" power other than
the ARIN Board as a body in the policy development process.
As such, I don't think that your argument quite fits the situation.
If folks of a similar mind are able to put a policy proposal together
and submit it to policy@arin.net (there's a template on the ARIN
web site), it will receive the same treatment as any other policy
proposal.
How the community as a whole reacts to the proposal is another
matter, but, if a substantial majority of the community feels the
policy proposal is a good one, then, it should be possible to
obtain consensus. If that's not the case, then, I'm not sure how
you can justify implementing such a policy contrary to the
consensus of the community.
I hope there is no way to effect a top-down policy within ARIN since
we work very hard to maintain a bottom up policy process. If there
is, then, something is very broken.
Owen
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