[113683] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IXP
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Nuno Vieira - nfsi telecom)
Sat Apr 18 04:30:04 2009
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 09:23:30 +0100 (WEST)
From: Nuno Vieira - nfsi telecom <nuno.vieira@nfsi.pt>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <6F555BDA-C657-4FC2-95FC-474ACA5DF87A@gmail.com>
Reply-To: Nuno Vieira - nfsi telecom <nuno.vieira@nfsi.pt>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
----- "kris foster" <kris.foster@gmail.com> wrote:
> painfully, with multiple circuits into the IX :) I'm not advocating
> Paul's suggestion at all here
>
> Kris
Totally agree with you Kris.
For the IX scenario (or at least looking in a Public way) it seems Another Terrible Mistake to me.
IMHO, when you are in a Public IX, you usually want to reach everyone's network without hassling around. Then it is your problem, and yours peer problem if we peer or not.
When you overload a certain port at a Public IX, you rather upgrade that Port, or, Move particular bit pushers and movers for a Private Peering port (if it really makes technical and economical sense).
I don't see how this idea that came out there could benefit the operational daily works (For IX, For IX Customers) , also, it would require work from the (usually) Neutral IX, when users need to connect ear other, which, will lead in more money to pay. (hey IX OPS.. we are company X and Z, and we signed a nice peering agreement.. can you please virtual patch us ?) Where is the neutrality here ? Time ? What if my equipment brokes at 3 AM and IX Ops need to change configs ?
Ok, ones could say... it is automated... BUT.. what is the really security behind automation ? The portal is on the Wild Web, right ?
This happens today on datacenters, with real cross connects, usually thru MMR's (Meet me Rooms). I don't want to have a Virtual Meet me Room, on Internet exchanges where i peer.
This is my view. I might be wrong, but i don't care, as i am square as a rock. :-)
I don't understand how can this new concept (or really old, considering ancient ATM peering and stuff), can be better, more secure, and cheaper for all.
cheers,
--nvieira
