[113514] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Fiber cut in SF area
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Murphy, Jay, DOH)
Tue Apr 14 13:40:24 2009
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:37:30 -0600
In-Reply-To: <202705b0904141031m327e3ca8r9733080307cd0359@mail.gmail.com>
From: "Murphy, Jay, DOH" <Jay.Murphy@state.nm.us>
To: "Jorge Amodio" <jmamodio@gmail.com>,
<nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Cool enough. :-)
Jay Murphy=20
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jorge Amodio [mailto:jmamodio@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 11:31 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Fiber cut in SF area
> True enough Jorge, however, we need full-orbed perspective here....it's=
> not merely beating a dead horse; as far as topic goes, it is purely
> edification in the nth degree, manner, fashion. This is the lingua
> franca of this forum, and those who chose to read it, or not. =A0Not
> merely pointed dialogue or geek speaks for the consummate net head
> ideologue. After all, iron sharpens iron. Demagoguery gives rise to
> elitism. No demonization here. You're ok. :-)
I know, I don't mind the dialogue but IMHO besides trying to define
which is the best way to seal a manhole, I'd rather see a more
constructive discussion from an operational perspective.
I really doubt that the big guys who own the fibers will make a rational
decision about how to build their networks reading NANOG when the
underlaying problem is not just technical or operational.
For example, based on the experience with this outage, what's was
out, how many users were affected, how the network operator's
community handled the issue, what information was available,
what kind of communications we used, what we did wrong, what
we did right.
BTW, now I know where to get a good padlock for my shack :-)
Cheers
Jorge
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