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RE: Fiber cut in SF area

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Barak)
Mon Apr 13 19:37:35 2009

Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:35:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Barak <thegameiam@yahoo.com>
To: beckman@angryox.com, chris.ranch@nokia.com
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


--- On Mon, 4/13/09, chris.ranch@nokia.com <chris.ranch@nokia.com> wrote:

>> From: Peter Beckman
>> Subject: RE: Fiber cut in SF area
> >=A0 Total cost...is about $3000 per mile for
> equipment

> I get the feeling you haven't deployed or operated large
> networks.=A0 You never did say what the multiplier
> was.=A0 How many miles or detection nodes there
> were.=A0 Think millions.=A0 The number that popped
> into my head when thinking of active detection measures for
> the physical network is $billions.

AT&T: 888,000 route miles(1).
Verizon: 485,000 route miles(2).

If we assume that 1/4 of AT&T and Verizon's route-miles are in the US(3), t=
his would mean a capital expense of $666M and $364M respectively, not inclu=
ding any costs incurred for maintenance, monitoring, repair, false positive=
 etc.  In addition, as has been noted, this system wouldn't PREVENT a failu=
re, it would just give you some warning that a failure may be coming, proba=
bly by a matter of minutes. =20

In the words of Randy Bush, "I encourage my competitors to do this."

David Barak
Need Geek Rock?  Try The Franchise:=20
http://www.listentothefranchise.com

1) http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=3D4800&cdvn=3Dnews&newsarticleid=
=3D26554
2) http://mediumbusiness.verizon.com/about/network.aspx
3) I believe this to be an underestimate.
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