[113471] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Fiber cut in SF area
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dorn Hetzel)
Mon Apr 13 13:11:37 2009
In-Reply-To: <6CDD1F02-1912-4406-8790-F48A94E3865C@inebraska.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 12:43:47 -0400
From: Dorn Hetzel <dhetzel@gmail.com>
To: Andy Ringsmuth <andyring@inebraska.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Or skip the locks and fill the manholes with sand. Then provide the service
folks those big suction trucks to remove the sand for servicing :)
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Andy Ringsmuth <andyring@inebraska.com>wrote:
>
> On Apr 13, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
>
> Manhole locks are just going to stop vandalism, and I think the threat
>>> to obstruction calculation just doesn't add up for that small level of
>>> isolated cases.
>>>
>>
>> It doesn't stop it, it just makes it slightly harder, and they'll go after
>> another point.
>>
>
> IMHO, I think manhole locks would only serve to HEIGHTEN the threat, not
> minimize it. Flag this under the whole "obscurity" category, but think
> about this - if you're a vandal itching to do something stupid, and you see
> a bunch of manhole covers and a couple of them have locks on them, which
> ones are you going to target? The ones with the locks, of course. Why?
> Because by the very existence of the locks, it implies there's something of
> considerable value beyond the lock.
>
>
> -Andy
>
>
