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Re: ACLs vs. full firewalls

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Karl Auer)
Tue Apr 7 18:38:57 2009

From: Karl Auer <kauer@biplane.com.au>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <20090408070402.a73638d7.nanog@85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org>
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:32:02 +1000
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On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 07:04 +0930, Mark Smith wrote:
> It seems there is a trend towards moving host protection on to the
> hosts themselves, onto or closer to the resource or entity being
> protected. It's basically following the cliche, "If you want something
> to be done properly, you need to do it yourself."

And IPv6 tends to push security back onto hosts, too.

> If you move to the host-based firewalling model, plain packet
> filtering ACLs at the perimeter would be quite an adequate form of a
> first level of defence, while also avoiding the performance overhead
> of (or resources required to perform) stateful tracking of large
> amounts of traffic.=20

And a combination of the two - if you *are* performing more complex
checks deeper inside the network, packet filtering can reduce the load
that actually reaches those inner check points.

I'd be interested to hear why people use firewalls. I've never felt the
need, myself - am I living in a fool's paradise?

Regards, K.

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