[112094] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IPv6 Confusion
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Randy Bush)
Thu Feb 19 02:55:33 2009
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:55:15 +0900
From: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
To: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
In-Reply-To: <A3C9582B-2951-4285-8A4F-0F710898A42C@virtualized.org>
Cc: 'NANOG list' <nanog@nanog.org>
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> This may be where Randy Bush derives his "IVTF" label.
not exactly. see <http://archive.psg.com/051000.ccr-ivtf.pdf>.
> Yes, there have been attempts to bridge the two camps, but I suspect
> the only way to really address this is a fundamental shift in the way
> the IETF does business, taking into account the fact that network
> operators and end users, by and large, are not the implementors of
> protocols and don't actually care how they are implemented, but rather
> the folks who define what the protocols need to do. I'll admit some
> skepticism that such a change is actually feasible.
standards bodies used to be composed of users meeting to drive vendors
to common specs so the users had freedom of choice and inter-operation.
the ietf has become vendors inventing new and ever more complex features
to drive users to minimal margins.
randy
