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RE: Greedy Routing

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jake Mertel)
Wed Feb 18 18:40:24 2009

From: Jake Mertel <jake@nobistech.net>
To: Deepak Jain <deepak@ai.net>, "Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu"
	<Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>, Rod Beck <Rod.Beck@hiberniaatlantic.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:39:44 -0600
In-Reply-To: <D338D1613B32624285BB321A5CF3DB250C9E2A5A52@ginga.ai.net>
Cc: nanog list <nanog@nanog.org>
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I had to laugh when reading... This is how I think someone who doesn't "get=
" how the Internet works may try to re-explain what a researcher explained =
to them about how metrics influence the flow of traffic in BGP path selecti=
on.


Regards,

Jake Mertel
Nobis Technology Group, L.L.C.



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-----Original Message-----
From: Deepak Jain [mailto:deepak@ai.net]=20
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:01 PM
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu; Rod Beck
Cc: nanog list
Subject: RE: Greedy Routing

>
> Maybe there's some critical insight in the paper that Physorg managed
> to totally not mention, I dunno.

I saw it the same way...

" As the researchers explain, some types of networks are not navigable. For=
 instance, if the probability that two nodes are linked doesn't depend on t=
he metric distance between them, then such networks are difficult to naviga=
te, as there is no way to choose one node over another based on distance. B=
ut when there is a connection between the link existence probability and th=
e hidden distance between nodes, metric distances can help to navigate the =
network, i.e., such networks are "navigable.""

If your network doesn't calculate or use metrics or weights, or AS path len=
gths... then you are not able to
throw packets like fairy dust to their intended destination. Worse, if you =
use metrics unrelated to distance
(like link cost) you could actually send your packets the wrong way.

It's funny, but I think they said that their math shows that the Internet w=
orks to generally route packets
(to a shorter path) than other possible paths.

I'm sure that will come as a surprise to all of us.

Deepak Jain
AiNET



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