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RE: Approach to allocating netblocks

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Frank Bulk)
Thu Jan 15 23:27:28 2009

From: "Frank Bulk" <frnkblk@iname.com>
To: =?utf-8?Q?'M=C3=A5ns_Nilsson'?= <mansaxel@besserwisser.org>,
	"NANOG list" <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <92DC901FB679F85F2849B0D0@rasmus.kthnoc.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:27:02 -0600
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

I hesitate to put my customers in "the Lagrange point between clueless =
and lazy" because they're SMBs doing what 99% of the other SMBs out =
there do.  I have some customers who are in the hub in a multi-site VPN =
network and renumbering would be very painful.

While Renumbering has all the positives you mentioned, it's a sure way =
to sour the customer relationship.  Much cheaper, long-term, to set =
aside adjacent address space.

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: M=C3=A5ns Nilsson [mailto:mansaxel@besserwisser.org]=20
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 4:17 AM
To: NANOG list
Subject: RE: Approach to allocating netblocks

--On onsdag, onsdag 14 jan 2009 10.30.18 -0600 Frank Bulk
<frnkblk@iname.com> wrote:

> But perhaps the BCP is to make the customer renumber, in which case =
I'm
> making things more complicated than they need to be.

Most customers with PA space (which is what you are giving them) are =
quite
used to renumbering. If not, they will become, given v6 PAishness.=20

Renumbering is not to be avoided at all costs, because:=20

Renumbering cleans cruft and finds mishaps waiting to happen.
Renumbering rewards those who have done proper configuration separation. =

Renumbering rewards those who have automated their systems management. =20
Renumbering thus is good for you.=20

There are economic incentives (keeping the customer because said =
customer
hovers in the Lagrange point between clueless and lazy) to let =
suboptimal
numbering schemes fester. Might alter picture above, but from =
operational
standpoint renumbering is not that bad.=20

--=20
M=C3=A5ns Nilsson			M A C H I N A

Now my EMOTIONAL RESOURCES are heavily committed to 23% of the SMELTING
and REFINING industry of the state of NEVADA!!



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