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Re: Anyone notice strange announcements for 174.128.31.0/24

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com)
Wed Jan 14 10:58:51 2009

Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:57:27 +0000
From: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com
To: Michienne Dixon <mdixon@nkc.org>
In-Reply-To: <6316CD198EC8BC44A9D200F375869F1E4A1737@nkc-mailsrv.nkc.org>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
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 welcome to the joys of anycast... :)

--bill


On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 09:50:39AM -0600, Michienne Dixon wrote:
> 
> Interesting - So as a cyber criminal - I could setup a router, start
> announcing AS 16733, 18872, and maybe 6966 for good measure and their
> routers would ignore my announcements and IP ranges that I siphoned from
> searching IANA?  Hm...  Would that also prevent them from accessing my
> rogue network from their network?
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Michienne Dixon
> Network Administrator
> liNKCity
> 312 Armour Rd.
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simon Lockhart [mailto:simon@slimey.org] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 2:07 AM
> To: Hank Nussbacher
> Cc: NANOG list
> Subject: Re: Anyone notice strange announcements for 174.128.31.0/24
> 
> On Wed Jan 14, 2009 at 09:59:14AM +0200, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
> > What if, by doing some research experiment, the researcher discovers 
> > some unknown and latent bug in IOS or JunOS that causes much of the 
> > Internet to go belly up?  1 in a billion chance, but nonetheless, a 
> > headsup would have been in order.
> 
> Say we had a customer who connected to us over BGP, and they used some
> new experimental BGP daemon. Their announcement was "odd" in some way,
> but appeared clean to us (a Cisco house). Once their announcement hit
> the a Foundry router, it tickled a bug which caused the router to
> propogate the announcement, but also start to blackhole traffic. Oh
> dear, large chunks of the Internet have just gone belly up.
> 
> Should we have given a heads up to the Internet at large that we were
> turning up this customer?
> 
> Simon
> (Yes, I'm in the minority that thinks that Randy hasn't done anything
> bad)
> -- 
> 
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